[kapnkrunch]

The rules for Split Fire say that the "special weapon bearers" can pick a different target than the others in a unit. Are heroes considered "special weapon bearers?"

For example...

Suppose I have Guru Lucius leading a squad of Yetis with Rocket Launchers. If I pay 1LP to give the unit Split Fire can I target one target with the Rocket Launchers, a second target with the rest of the Yetis' Jungle Rifles, and a third target with Guru Lucius' Drum Guns?

[Blokhead]

[Sigma Golem]

Yup, I so much wanna shoot with My Capt. VC and his unit to. That would be great, but as far as I know, heros don't have specials.
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[kapnkrunch]

Thanks for the clarifications.

So, using my example of Guru Lucius and the Yetis... since Lucius has two drum guns on his card, do I have it right by saying that he would be compelled to aim one of them at the same target as the Yetis' Jungle Rifles but, since it's a separate salvo, he could then fire the second gun at another target or does he have to fire both salvos at the same target as the Yetis?

[OB-RT-NH-DS]

He has different weapons then the Yeti's correct?

As long as he does, he will be able to shoot at different targets then the yeti's.

Page 61 of the English rule book

[chillatbmth]

Surely all special weapons bearers have different weapons to regular guys yet still need the officer to issue split fire to engague different targets. Therefore the much mistrusted logic of gaming worlds would require a split fire order else you are adding weight to the lads fire power.

reading on page 61

[OB-RT-NH-DS]

[kapnkrunch]

[OB-RT-NH-DS]

[vastatum]

this is another example of unclear rules.

The first is that each weapon profile may target a separate unit. I understand this to imply that each weapon profile EXCEPT special weapon bearers my fire at a different target, otherwise this would defeat the purpose of split fire except under overwatch situations. I come to this assumption by reading the rules for split fire and overwatch. Split fire implies that it has a use on its own, and it may ALSO be used in overwatch.

The next question to determine whether or not heroes weapons are considered "special".

The follow up question is can they fire independently of the rest of their squad.

If we can get all of these questions answered we will have a clear picture of whether or not:

1. Heroes can fire their weapons at separate targets normally and if split fire is required to do so.

2. Heroes can fire their weapons at separate targets under overwatch.

At-43 has many ambiguous rules and the sooner we can get them cleared up and a clear cut way to play defined the easier it will be for new players. IMO the lack of clarity in rules is a huge turn off for new players, and one that I hope rackham can address.
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[OB-RT-NH-DS]

[Aftermath]

OB is quite correct here.

The only way a Split Fire drill affects which units can be hit by different salvoes is because it can allow the Spec Weaps to fire at a different time than the rest of the unit.

[vastatum]

Thanks for all the clarifications, I hope I was not the only one confused by how split fire worked. The real reason split fire exists is to Shoot normal weapons, move, shoot special weapons.

If a unit decides to shoot all their weapons at the same time, each weapon profile may select a different target, without having to use split fire.

I hope I wasn't the only one mightily confused by this
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[OB-RT-NH-DS]

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[blkdymnd]

[vastatum]

so are you saying that in a unit with Lucius, ZZ-rifles and special ZZ-Guns that:

1. each weapon profile may fire at a different target normally

2. if split fire is granted Guru Lucius may not be a part of the salvo fired by the special weapons bearers, but must fire with the regular zz rifles salvo (example specials fire, unit moves, lucius and ZZ rifles fire) unless he has the same weapon as the special weapons? (this last part seems a little over complicated)

3. if on overwatch with split fire, lucius again must fire his weapons with the regular troopers (unless he has the same weapons as the special weapons bearers again to me this seems overly complicated that a hero can be considered to be a special weapon or not depending on what weapon they carry)

Or have I got this wrong again
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